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Russell Brand Using the 180 Rule — 67 Comments

  1. Well, I finally saw Russell Brand’s “Messiah Complex” routine, and it was……….generally speaking………entertaining. But, it most certainly smacked of malignant narcissism in the form of Brand having “the only” answers to “all of” Life’s debacles. He vociferously defended his own dysfunctions and addiction issues while simultaneously making a source of comic relief.

    After watching his routine, a few weeks later he was in the news, again, ranting AGAINST the p-o-rn industry and actually blaming that industry for his s-exual addictions. While he did reasonably discuss how that industry systematically objectifies women and literally ruins what SHOULD be healthy relationships, he whined, moaned, and groaned about his own choices of behaviors. Strict aside, his childhood experiences were HORRIBLY dysfunctional and, if 1/7 of what he has related is true, then it’s no wonder that he developed into a screaming, raving narcissist (if that’s the LEAST of his personality issues!).

    The series, “House Of Cards,” is mentioned, above and it is one of about 2 dozen ongoing series that are (IMHO) more-or-less studies of human behavior. These series characters are reflecting the inner demons of the writers who are penning the scripts. Think about that. Who could come up with such atrocious and outrageous behaviors except people who had either been raised in such dysfunction, or people who ARE ***that messed up.***

    It might be interesting to come up with a list of series’ titles that are 100% dysfunction! LOL

    • Truthy,
      I’ve been wanting to watch the “Messiah Complex”. Now I’l. have to. You peaked my curiosity. Where did you see it?

      I’m a little afraid of having my boundaries crossed and getting slimed, but I guess that’s one of the risks of observing spaths for educational purposes.

      Russell Brand is an interesting person. I think he knows the truth but has trouble feeling it. He knows porn is detrimental to him but yet he cannot change his addiction to shame and porn…. or can he? I wonder.

      I have to admit that I’ve learned the most about spaths and other dysfunctions, from dysfunctional people. The more “healthy” a person is, the less they can understand or relate to the “sickos”. I wouldn’t say that I was the most healthy person on earth but I still couldn’t understand spaths until I was educated by observing people like Sam Vaknin and Russell Brand (in addition to people I met in my real live travels).

      Yep, I’ll have to watch it.

      • Sky, so good to *see* you!!!!!! I hope that you’re doing well and that everything is sorting itself out!!

        I found “Messiah Complex” on Netflix – I have a streaming account that I can watch on my computer. I’m sure it’s also on Amazon Prime, but it might require a fee to “rent” from that service.

        My feeling is that I’m won’t allow being slimed by anyone, anymore. Sure, droplets and spatters of their putridity might land on me, but I won’t be immersed in it, nor wear it around underneath layers and layers of more slime. So, I’m not afraid to view stuff like that – if it’s too intense or too triggering, I simply turn it off.

        I’ve learned ***about*** spaths and ppaths through my experiences with them, personally. I’ve learned about my own issues and boundaries through my recovery and healing processes for the past 3 years.

        After watching Brand’s routine, I came to a conclusion that most “healthy” people are going to view his rants and raves as pure entertainment. But, those of us who have emerged from our own spath experiences will recognize it for what it is, regardless of where we might be on our personal Healing Paths.

        It’s definitely worth watching. And, post back AFTER you’ve seen it with some insight and opinions! 😀

  2. Truthy,
    Finally got to watch it! It was interesting and entertaining for the most part. The vulgarities were over the top and unnecessary, but that seems to be what keeps the momentum going by breaking the tension from the serious topics.

    There was lots of irony in the skits, like when he said that Gandhi sacrificed his wife but not himself. Then he said that he’d do the same thing (to Katy Perry? no wonder she left him!).

    He is quite insightful but there was one place where he wasn’t. He was talking about how his attitude about the Olympic Games did a flip flop from cynicism to enthusiasm once he saw all the excitement. He ended up riding a parade float dressed as willy wonka. He claims not to understand how that happened but it’s my opinion that he is able to switch allegiances so easily because his beliefs are shallow. He doesn’t feel that way, I’m sure. That’s because he mistakes the depths of his intellectual insights with his emotional depth. They aren’t the same thing at all. It is one of Robert Hare’s criteria in the PCL-R: emotionally shallow.

    He does make fun of himself so it’s hard to tell where he is being serious and where he’s joking. I doubt that even HE knows. It’s like he said, he just needs lots of attention and it doesn’t matter what he has to do to get it.

    I don’t think that I was too badly slimed. Thanks for encouraging me to watch it.

    • Sky, I’m glad that you watched it. Brand is what he is……..and, he absolutely craves attention as witnessed by his on-stage costume. I agree that he’s insightful and he does, indeed, know why he wound up dressed as Willy Wonka in the parade. It was a decision that he made, plain and simple. I think that he just used it as a segue in his act to cause the monologue to “feel” seamless in the transitions.

      Katy Perry is the same as her ex-husband – they’re both uber-narcissists and I believe that Brand meets a number of Hare’s criteria. He is an addict, he knows that he’s an addict, and that’s that. But, he is also very shallow and engages in very risky behavior, as well, so he’s “immortal,” in his own mind.

      I didn’t believe that you would be slimed by watching a comedy routine, even if it became offensive, at any point. I feel that you have enough recovery and healing under your belt to repel any indirect slime that comes along. 😉

      • Truthy, yes I’m tough enough to deal with a comedy routine, but a spath once told me, “Be careful what you let into your mind.” He knows how easily people are influenced, especially when you don’t expect to be slimed – while watching comedy, listening to music, art, theatre, etc…

        This spath is extremely paranoid so he avoids even watching tv. lol. But he is perceptive like Brand is. He knows that people have agendas, even performing artists. He is very aware when someone is manipulating emotions and because he is so paranoid, when an artist manipulates his emotions, he automatically assumes it’s for nefarious reasons.

        I learned a lot from him. It’s especially funny that he suspects the innocent artists but he never suspected my ex-spath of trying to manipulate his emotions. (the few that he has). Yet, I know that my ex-spath LOVED watching the look on Paranoid-spath’s face when he pulled a con on him because ex-spath TOLD me.

  3. It made me uncomfortable to watch him. He seems to have a look of disgust the whole time he is talking to the panel. There is very little lighthearted or comical about him. He looked like an angry child at times.

  4. Hi Cealie,
    You’re not alone in that opinion. He seems to have disdain for a lot of people. Those anchors are being punished for something they did, probably before the show. They must’ve caused him a narcissistic injury.

    It will be interesting to see where Russell Brand ends up ten or twenty years from now.

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